Disc Brake upgrade
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Apr 8, 2020 03:22PM | CooperTune | |
Apr 8, 2020 02:45PM | Spitz | |
Apr 8, 2020 12:12PM | Jemal | |
Apr 8, 2020 12:16AM | TK | |
Apr 7, 2020 09:21PM | Jemal | Edited: Apr 8, 2020 04:56AM |
Apr 6, 2020 06:26PM | TK | |
Apr 6, 2020 03:57PM | KimB | |
Apr 5, 2020 05:39PM | TK | |
Apr 5, 2020 05:01PM | 1963SV2 | |
Apr 5, 2020 05:01PM | 66Cooper'S | |
Apr 5, 2020 09:05AM | CooperTune | |
Apr 5, 2020 07:58AM | KimB |
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Holy shyte....either delete (and explaiin) or post a rebute...not edit someone's words
"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May
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Ordered so by a Judge
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I hope MM does not take sly action to make us question the integrity of this forum. Really Don, you found it necessary to remove the link to my YouTube channel?? When I mention and tag you all the time?? After all these years of being complimentary to my friends here, and giving credit and promoting their business, this sort of thing may have me change my tone, and start explaining WHY I no longer work here!
It's easy enough to get around this distasteful action. Search "Jemal shows" in any browser to get to my YouTube. And note how complimentary I am to Mini Mania.
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MK1 850 Morris 10" wheels, magic wand
Thinking of converting to 7.5" discs in the front from the drums. Not sure why beyond I can social distance in the garage. Looks like I can order a kit with all the front end bits that need to be swapped. 1) Is this a good upgrade? 2) What are likely issues/ gotchas/hard spots in the conversion? 3) What else can/should I do as long as I have everything apart? (seals?) No particular problems just idle hands looking for entertainment.......
Kim
Q1. Generally I would agree with Steve that discs are a good idea .. but its worth asking why discs are considered an upgrade. Basically discs didn't really stop as well as drums but they continued to work when the drums were giving up. Its all about heat dissipation.
This is best illustrated on a long downhill run with sharp bends. For the first couple of corners the drums on my Daughter's 1100 Clubman were probably as good (or maybe even better) than the S discs on my Traveller. However, by the fouth or fifth ...and definitely by the tenth.. heavy slow it is obvious that discs are the way to go.
If you spend your time in the way suited to an 850 (my first car and something I did a lot of miles in) then drums are a good idea. Although, they do need a bit more maintenance than discs. However, if you live in a hilly area and drive in a way that the original designer didn't intend, then discs are worth considering.
Q2. You need to think about a booster system. Many people will poo poo the idea; but you fit discs for their fade resistance. And harder pads handle fade better but take more effort to produce the same retardation. I've done both and definitely prefer the boosted approach.
Fitting has (IMH no real gotchas. Assembly is the reverse of disassembly. The only tricky bit I can think of off the top of my head (depending on your mechanical ability) is shimming the ball joints - although you can use the ones you've got if they're in OK condition.
Q3. Its up to you to look around and see what might do with freshening up.. Inner lower arm bushes?? Tie rod bushes? You're going to get new bearings and seals anyway (discs uprights/hubs are different from those you currently have .... and may or may not be part of the kit you are considering..) If your current master cylinder is OK I see no need to tamper with it. ..And I didn't bother to change the rear wheel cylinders on my Traveller when I changed to front brakes .. the rear brake limiter seems to look after things; I've run it like that for years without any concerns.
Good luck,
Ian
PS Just remember that once you move away from "standard" (even though the bits might be standard on another model) everything may not line up perfectly in your application and you have to be prepared to do a little problem solving beyond what you can find in the manual.
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MK1 850 Morris 10" wheels, magic wand
Thinking of converting to 7.5" discs in the front from the drums. Not sure why beyond I can social distance in the garage. Looks like I can order a kit with all the front end bits that need to be swapped. 1) Is this a good upgrade? 2) What are likely issues/ gotchas/hard spots in the conversion? 3) What else can/should I do as long as I have everything apart? (seals?) No particular problems just idle hands looking for entertainment.......
Kim
2. Take off the old, put on the new, but then we are talking about a 50+ year old car.
3. The conversion to disks on the front adds around 1" to the track. This is why the Cooper 'S has a spacered rear drum. You might consider 'S drums, new shoes, and Steve has already mentioned the rear slave cylinders.
Until you get into the project you won't know what issues/gotchas/hard spots there are. You will probably need new seals - but then are they included with the kit? The suspension cones - might be time to replace them, track rod ends? Check what tools are needed torque wrench, cone compressor, etc.
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you may consider. I'd go ahead and install a new master cyl. You need to balance the rear wheel cyls to your disc. 1/2 if light
never run full tank or passengers, 5/8 if using 165 tires or heavier car. Care should be taken installing front brake hoses. Some
are handed side for side. Be prepared to replace hard pipe it can be old. I'm about to remove Metro vented Turbo brakes from
a mini and install non vented four pot alloy fronts and super mini fins rear. Send me a cell number and I'll text you pics. Contact
info in profile. Steve (CTR)
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MK1 850 Morris 10" wheels, magic wand
Thinking of converting to 7.5" discs in the front from the drums. Not sure why beyond I can social distance in the garage. Looks like I can order a kit with all the front end bits that need to be swapped. 1) Is this a good upgrade? 2) What are likely issues/ gotchas/hard spots in the conversion? 3) What else can/should I do as long as I have everything apart? (seals?) No particular problems just idle hands looking for entertainment.......
Kim
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