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 Mini cooper 5e5d code. Problem with brake discs/pads

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 Posted: Jan 14, 2020 03:57AM
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Social media is a good shout especially nowadays.

Quick update- after I gave them the minimum brake disc tolerance measurements (20.4mm for the front and 8.4mm for the back) it all went quiet on their part. Had to chase them and they've come back and said they've found different tolerance levels on their system which are lower for my model-19.6mm for the front and 7.6mm for the back. I've got a standard mini cooper non S version so maybe the figures i got from the net are wrong. I popped my reg on the eurocarparts site and it comes back as 22 for front and 8 for back.... I'm currently waiting to hear from the dealership to confirm but would anyone know on here what they are for my car?

Anyway, despite coming up with new tolerance limits, the front discs still fell right on the limit so they've agreed to change the discs and pads as a GOGW but refuse to change the back as there is still 0.2mm life left which according to them is roughly 4-5k miles...
If your MINI has the factory original brake rotors, the minimum tolerance is usually stamped on the rotor itself...  

Good job on following thru and keeping up the pressure!

 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 12:37PM
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Social media is a good shout especially nowadays.

Quick update- after I gave them the minimum brake disc tolerance measurements (20.4mm for the front and 8.4mm for the back) it all went quiet on their part. Had to chase them and they've come back and said they've found different tolerance levels on their system which are lower for my model-19.6mm for the front and 7.6mm for the back. I've got a standard mini cooper non S version so maybe the figures i got from the net are wrong. I popped my reg on the eurocarparts site and it comes back as 22 for front and 8 for back.... I'm currently waiting to hear from the dealership to confirm but would anyone know on here what they are for my car?

Anyway, despite coming up with new tolerance limits, the front discs still fell right on the limit so they've agreed to change the discs and pads as a GOGW but refuse to change the back as there is still 0.2mm life left which according to them is roughly 4-5k miles...

 Posted: Jan 13, 2020 04:31AM
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The dealer initially tried giving me the fast one by advising me the brakes have been cleaned and polished. When I brought up the subject of badly worn disc brakes they said they had noticed that but in their opinion their was around 5-6k miles left on them before they needed changing. I asked them to measure the exact thickness and both the front and rear discs fell below the minimum tolerance levels by 0.6-0.8mm so its not even borderline. I advised the service manager of the thresholds but he didn't back down but informed me to speak to the sales manager tomorrow as he is the one who has to authorise if the dealership end up paying out for new brake discs. Might have to get trading standards involved if the sales manager doesn't play ball as they have essentially sold me a car with knackered brakes and didn't tell me about this when they did a 'full service'....

Good luck! 

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The dealer initially tried giving me the fast one by advising me the brakes have been cleaned and polished. When I brought up the subject of badly worn disc brakes they said they had noticed that but in their opinion their was around 5-6k miles left on them before they needed changing. I asked them to measure the exact thickness and both the front and rear discs fell below the minimum tolerance levels by 0.6-0.8mm so its not even borderline. I advised the service manager of the thresholds but he didn't back down but informed me to speak to the sales manager tomorrow as he is the one who has to authorise if the dealership end up paying out for new brake discs. Might have to get trading standards involved if the sales manager doesn't play ball as they have essentially sold me a car with knackered brakes and didn't tell me about this when they did a 'full service'....

 Posted: Jan 7, 2020 11:44AM
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Macca, I think you are in a tough spot because brake pads and rotors are 'normal wear items' and the warning light is not on for worn pads. I suspect as your mechanic said, the dealer probably changed the oil and filters and called it done.

Definitely worth a try to have the dealer fix the issue - since the brakes are a critical safety system, you might mention the risk of near worn brakes and their liability for selling such a car. But I am not a lawyer so I can't say what is liable or not.

Let us know how this turns out.

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Hi everyone,

I purchased my first Mini just over 2 weeks ago. Cooper, 2012 with 59k on the clock and came with part service history- last service was Jan 2016 which is almost 4 years ago. Purchased it from a local dealer and it came with 12 month extended warranty and was told it would get a full service upon sale. The car was last MOT'd in October 2019 when there was 58k on the clock and the only advisories were worn tyre which were fixed.

I'll be the first to admit I don't know much about cars so I was looking for some guidance on the following. Met up with a mate after I purchased the car who has his own diagnostic laptop that mechanics use. He plugged it in and it came up with a 5e5d code which states 'DSC brake lining wear indicator rear, brake pads' and then below that it states 'intermittent'. No warning light coming up on the dash so far. He then checked the disc brakes by running his finger from the middle to the end and said all 4 were quite badly worn as they had a significant lip on the outer edge. Got a couple of more car minded people to check this and they both agree the brake discs are badly worn.

After speaking to my mechanic over the phone, he suggested that maybe a full service hasn't been done on the car as its from a dealer and margins are tight so the likelihood is all they've done is changed the oil and oil filter (this matches up to what is showing in the service book). He said disc brakes wont be a MOT failure unless they are in a really bad state and as there is no warning light for the break pads on the dash it will be tough to prove anything despite the diagnosis machine showing the 5e5d code. He suggested going back to the dealer and complaining there is a noise coming form the rear side of the car when braking and see if they will fix it as a GOGW as it will come under a wear and tear item and likely not be covered by warranty. So that's what I've done and the car is booked at the dealers to have a look at this Friday. I've got a funny feeling im going to get fobbed off though! My mechanic said the code doesn't really prove anything and suggested i keep that information in the back pocket for now and maybe bring it up later. I cant actually hear a grinding noise when I brake either so I reckon the dealer will tell me they just given the brakes a clean. Should any of this been flagged up in the service? Anyone got any experience or knowledge with the 5e5d code? I obviously dont want to have to MOT my car in 10 months time and then face the prospect of paying for new brake pads and/or brake discs when i average about 2k mileage a year...