Winter 5% off Sale
   Forum Width:     Forum Type: 

 Posted: Nov 7, 2019 06:13PM
 Edited:  Nov 7, 2019 06:14PM
Total posts: 3244
Last post: Jan 11, 2020
Member since:Jul 20, 2002
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
US
'it it with a 'ammer. If you don't succeed, 'it it 'arder. If you still don't succeed, 'it it with a bigger 'ammer. If it breaks it weren't no good in the first bloody place.

 Posted: Nov 7, 2019 03:43PM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Image Gallery
Success!  After heating and cooling, and more rust penetrating oil, they started to move when based on the floor caveman style.  Then I could work them off prying with a large flat blade.. Knuckles knocked out with some friendly persuasion from a hammer and a long punch.  Almost done rebuilding the upper arm, and everything else on the front end is new.. so once the frame is cleaned and painted, most of the painful work is done.   Already finished the rear swing arms, disassembled, sandblasted, painted and then new bearings, shafts brake cylinder, shoes, springs and hoses..


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail 

 

 Posted: Oct 30, 2019 08:47AM
Total posts: 8211
Last post: Jan 17, 2020
Member since:Feb 7, 2006
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
Maybe heat up the Aluminum cone not too hot to disturb the rubber (if you plan on re using).
I think i have a pair of stock front cones if you need them.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 07:48PM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Later ones are 14mm metric..  hard to tell on these ones as the threads are pretty rusted.. will have to clean them up and see what I can use as I have both sizes of threaded rod..  More banging today with no success getting the cones off, more penetrating fluid and another day to wait..  something has to give eventually


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail 

 

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 03:38PM
Total posts: 8211
Last post: Jan 17, 2020
Member since:Feb 7, 2006
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
It depends on the year the newer ones are metric. i can't remember when they changed maybe 76 when the single bolt sub frames came about.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 02:27PM
Total posts: 1455
Last post: Jan 17, 2020
Member since:Mar 10, 1999
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
pretty sure the nut inside the cone is 1/2" fine thread.  I envision a threaded tool to assist by pushing on the trumpet interior while you are outside prying on the trumpet lip.

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 11:04AM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Malsal, thanks for the suggestion.. knuckle is frozen in place as well.. but maybe able to push that out with threaded rod going through the rubber..


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail 

 

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 09:22AM
Total posts: 8211
Last post: Jan 17, 2020
Member since:Feb 7, 2006
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
I had one that was tight and removed the knuckle from the trumpet then supported the assembly and hit it inside with a piece of #/8" or !/2" round rod, just moving around the inside loosened it up the hardest part was keeping it supported in the vice.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 08:52AM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Will let them soak for a few days, then try bashing as suggested..maybe some restrained banging at the edges to vibrate the penetrating fluid into the joint... every 5 minute job seems to take hours on an old Mini..   I guess that's why we love working on them.. not shortage of things to do!


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail 

 

 Posted: Oct 29, 2019 04:40AM
Total posts: 4006
Last post: Jan 19, 2020
Member since:Oct 8, 2011
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
US
I have a large vise and I catch the rubber spring in the vise one jaw inside one outside, tighten place a pipe over the trumpet and pull down. Vise is bolted to 400 lb welding bench. This has resulted in ripping the the lower cup out of the rubber. I have a pair of fronts HI-LOs stuck for a year or more. The plan is cut the sub frame so I can remove them then give them a try. I have a lot of trumpets in many different lengths. Steve (CTR)

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 11:02PM
Total posts: 1631
Last post: Jan 10, 2020
Member since:Oct 18, 2011
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
I find a large tree is kinder to the cone if you want to use it again...

Don't forget plenty of coppaslip on re-assembly..

Cheers, Ian

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 07:45PM
Total posts: 1522
Last post: Jan 21, 2020
Member since:Apr 30, 2009
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
US
Find area away from breakables.
FInd area with concrete or asphault ground

Grasp trumpet in hand firmly.  Raise high above head.
Strike swiftly  the cone down onto the ground  3 x.    

Rotate trumpet
 
Repeat


Smash it on the ground a few times    they usually come free.

 Goodluck

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 07:29PM
Total posts: 39
Last post: Dec 14, 2019
Member since:Dec 4, 2011
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
If you were closer I would give you a pair of trumpets.
Michael

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 05:53PM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Not if my wife is home..


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail 

 

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 05:42PM
Total posts: 1608
Last post: Jan 15, 2020
Member since:Jun 18, 1999
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0
WorkBench Posts: 0
Can you put them in the freezer and then in a large pot of boiling water?

 Posted: Oct 28, 2019 04:41PM
Total posts: 2015
Last post: Jan 12, 2020
Member since:Sep 24, 1999
Cars in Garage: 1
Photos: 231
WorkBench Posts: 11
CA
Gave up after a few hours of prying, banging and other failed attempts at removing the rubber cones from the front trumpets.. I want to keep both of them, so don't want to cut anything off.  Any suggestion on how to get them apart? they have been sprayed with penetrating oil and waiting for me to get back out and beat on them


Mini Mike.  .....
Driving the Mini 30 VTEC  Mini Van under construction... mikesmith.vic (at) gmail