Torque wrench setting disc brake models
Found 25 Messages
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Guess what, one step I read when I started the current re-greasing of front bearings project, I forgot about when I got to where the step should have been done. That step is: the "special washer required for fitting the drivceshaft on disc brake models". In my Haynes it is on page 10.4. When I did go back to read the steps *(after I had started this forum thread) I saw the "special washer" step was one I hadn't conducted. In fact I think I realized I have never conducted that step on my previous work years before.
SO.... I created a makeshift washer, did the step as indicated - essentially torquing the bearing and disc assembly with the washer method, removing the temporary "special washer", and then using the split collar and castle nut, and guess what!
I then had no difficulty getting the left side castle nut and pin hole on drive shaft to line up at 200 lb ft and on the right side lined up at 190 lb ft. Process complete.
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 8382
Last post: Jan 13, 2022 Member since:Feb 7, 2006
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 8382
Last post: Jan 13, 2022 Member since:Feb 7, 2006
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Get out the sander.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
Total posts: 10238
Last post: Apr 26, 2024 Member since:Mar 24, 1999
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
What where they torqued to ?
Total posts: 6349
Last post: Oct 22, 2023 Member since:Mar 9, 1999
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 4134
Last post: Oct 13, 2020 Member since:Oct 8, 2011
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Draw a circle and put a line through it to represent the end of the CV with the hole through it. Draw a hexagon around that and draw three lines flat to flat to represent the pin holes in the nut.
Draw a second diagram next to it but with a cross through the CV to represent two holes through it.
Compare the angle of rotation required to line up the 'holes'.
On a two-hole CV in the worst case scenario (where the hole is just past where it needs to be) you have to tighten the nut far less to line up the holes than with the single-hole CV - which is already too blinkin' tight to start with !!
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 8382
Last post: Jan 13, 2022 Member since:Feb 7, 2006
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Draw a circle and put a line through it to represent the end of the CV with the hole through it. Draw a hexagon around that and draw three lines flat to flat to represent the pin holes in the nut.
Draw a second diagram next to it but with a cross through the CV to represent two holes through it.
Compare the angle of rotation required to line up the 'holes'.
On a two-hole CV in the worst case scenario (where the hole is just past where it needs to be) you have to tighten the nut far less to line up the holes than with the single-hole CV - which is already too blinkin' tight to start with !!
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
Total posts: 10238
Last post: Apr 26, 2024 Member since:Mar 24, 1999
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Draw a circle and put a line through it to represent the end of the CV with the hole through it. Draw a hexagon around that and draw three lines flat to flat to represent the pin holes in the nut.
Draw a second diagram next to it but with a cross through the CV to represent two holes through it.
Compare the angle of rotation required to line up the 'holes'.
On a two-hole CV in the worst case scenario (where the hole is just past where it needs to be) you have to tighten the nut far less to line up the holes than with the single-hole CV - which is already too blinkin' tight to start with !!
Total posts: 169
Last post: Sep 18, 2020 Member since:Jan 28, 2014
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 1007
Last post: Jul 19, 2022 Member since:Jul 24, 2014
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 8382
Last post: Jan 13, 2022 Member since:Feb 7, 2006
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
Most older RWD American cars front bearings had no spacer you tightened up the bearings then backed them off a 1/4 turn or less to set them up.
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 8382
Last post: Jan 13, 2022 Member since:Feb 7, 2006
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
Most older RWD American cars front bearings had no spacer you tightened up the bearings then backed them off a 1/4 turn or less to set them up.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
Total posts: 60
Last post: Aug 12, 2021 Member since:Sep 16, 2009
|
Cars in Garage: 4
Photos: 91 WorkBench Posts: 13 |
I am intrigued about the math comment, not that I may understand the math principles very well. I assume going to the next slot is actually going above the 150 ft lbs and therefore something closer to the 188-200 fl lbs posted in Haynes.
Everyone I've spoken with, who isn't a Classic Mini owner, respond to the 188-200 ft lbs with "that a lot of torque", including one American car professional mechanic a a dealership here in town.
Likewise, your comment that the 188-200 fl lbs is too tight is also a comment that intrigues me, as I've seen posts elsewhere that suggest that the force applied isn't a factor because of the spacer between the bearings in the disc hub/cv unit.
But as you haven't seen an issue at the 150 fl lbs, I too didn't seem to see an issue on my application, althought my application didn't have a high amount of miles of use, and perhaps at many thousands of miles it may be an issue.
I'm courious what Classic Mini racers do/think.
And I'm courious why I find the differences of numbers and opinions seemingly at odds with each other!
Thanks again,
Russ
Motoring or Motorin, Motoren, Motoryn, Motring? That is the question!
Total posts: 10238
Last post: Apr 26, 2024 Member since:Mar 24, 1999
|
Cars in Garage: 0
Photos: 0 WorkBench Posts: 0 |
|
I've never, ever gone to 190 lbft and next hole as it's simply too tight. Never had any problems either.
Found 25 Messages