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 Posted: Nov 14, 2018 03:20PM
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Good speaking with you and glad you got it sorted Roger.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Nov 14, 2018 05:10AM
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yes he is and thanks for the heads up.

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

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Pretty good diagnostics.

FYI, the coolant temp sensor can be tested with a Volt Ohm Meter. If it has resistance, it's probably good. No need to remove it, just stick it with the probes and read. 

If rough idle, bad gas mileage or running rich continues, you may need to change the O2 sensor. You don't need to disconnect any hoses. Just unbolt the intake manifold and move slightly to get at the O2 sensor.

Dion is a good source and can fix anything. Also a good guy.

 Posted: Nov 13, 2018 05:50PM
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I would like to say thanks to all you guys for sharing all your thoughts regarding my delema. 

I would like to give a much deserved BIG-UP  to Malcolm for that great suggestion about checking the fuel trap.

So while taking off the fuel trap the vacuum line leading to the intake manifold seemingly came off too.
So not knowing where it came from I went into a major panic because the nipple on the intake manifold is so incredible 
small and not visible in plain site. So I searched all over and finally got a glimpse of where it seemed to fit. Now to get it on the 
nipple was another story because the space between the manifold and the firewall and throttle body is almost non existant.

As Malcolm had suggested I blew in one side of the fuel trap and determined it was not clogged and it wasn't 
So I went to advance auto part and found an elbow as he had also  suggested and because the hose which had fallen off had stretched
out from the engine heat it fit perfectly on the small side of the elbow .
I also bought some new plugs

I put the car back together and stacted it up and it ran great not burning all that black smoke or running rich. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed.

What seemed to have happened was though the fuel trap was clear since the hose had fallen off prior to me  removing the trap was the reason the computer was 
causing the car to run rich .
Thanks again Malcolm for all you wonderful advise.

As we say in Jamaica
 Every ting now Irie
Cool Runnings

PS Thanks Mini Mania for providing this forum

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

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Thanks for the heads up.
Will try. You see that this is quite new to me.
Roger

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

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Pssst.... Roger:

You somehow wrote your initial post in your signature line, so it will repeat every time you post, even outside of this thread.
Edit your first post and copy the data from your signature to the editor box, then save it. Next, delete the data from your signature space and all will be well.

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 Posted: Nov 8, 2018 05:43AM
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Greatly appreciated
Roger

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 07:55PM
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Thanks a bunch

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 02:27PM
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The fuel trap is located on the firewall. The vacuum line from the computer goes into one side and out the other to the intake manifold. The trap needs to be clear and you can test it by blowing through it. It is about the size of a box of matches and is black in colour.

The coolant temp sensor is a bear to get to and located under the intake manifold which requires removing  the intake to replace the sender. If it is bad it usually reads low on the temp gauge.

The lines very rarely go bad it is the elbow ends that fall apart, there are 8 of them and they are cheap just replace them all.
You need the code reader to re set and clear the codes they will not clear themselves even if you disconnect the battery.

I am in Orlando Fl 407 3four2 six33seven. [email protected]

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 01:23PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastaroger
When you say fuel trap do you mean fuel filter
No. A fuel trap is a device in a vacuum line that stops condensed fuel from getting into a sensitive electronic device. On very early classsic Minis, they were included in the vacuum line from the carb to the distributor's vacuum advance. If the trap gets full, the vacuum on the line is not sensed by the device.

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 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 11:42AM
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When you say fuel trap do you mean fuel filter

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 11:35AM
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Malcolm since I an not a mechanic but just learning a little about fixing this car  where is the fuel trap and the coolant  temp sensor and since no one around here have the computer to check the codes what then Also are you in the US and if so do you have a number I can call you
Roger

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 10:22AM
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You need to do the checks before you remove the throttle body.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 10:10AM
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Thanks for that advice I will tell mechanic. My issue is that I live in Tallahassee and Dion at DR Mini  in Chapel Hill near Tampa is the closest person to me that has a computer and can take care of it so I will send the throttle body to him and we can check other areas you suggested.
The diaphragm in the fuel regulator seems a little compromised when we took the top off  but will check your suggestions also.
Thanks a bunch.
Roger

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

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Make sure the fuel trap is clear if it is blocked the ecu will not get vacuum.
Also the coolant temp sensors fail and give a low temp reading so the computer thinks the engine is cold and dumps more fuel at it.
You really need to get the codes read if someone local has the correct reader.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Nov 7, 2018 08:51AM
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Thanks for the heads_up sorry for just getting back.
When my mechanic gets some time after thanksgiving we will take off the throttle body and send it down to Tampa to have them look it there  for me.
Thanks very much for the feed back.

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart 

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I suspect the Seafoam is just masking the problem.
By "single barely fuel injector" do you mean single point fuel injection? Or that it barely runs?
I had a non-Mini fuel injected vehicle that had very similar symptoms. It would die out if the rpms got below a certain point, needing me to heel-and-toe at stoplights. The problem was the throttle position sensor had worn and when the throttle closed, the computer thought the engine had stopped and would cut off fuel.
I don't know if Mini fuel injection has a similar component, but it might be a place to start looking.

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 Posted: Nov 3, 2018 04:57AM
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Morning my 92 single barely fuel injector cooper is running rich any ideas on how to fix it
Thanks

HELP. My name is roger in tallahassee i have a 92 fuel injector cooper and i have to keep my foot on the brake and gas pedal to prevent it from cutting off.  On the open road it runs perfect but cuts off at stop lights. I have checked lines for vacumn leaks but lines are fine . I have added sea foam to gas which helped the rough idle to smooth out but when it cuts off if i let it sit for 30 sec it will restart