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Mini Mania Open House and Lawn Party
by Jerry (Siddhartha) Bradbury
What can transform a peaceful sylvan lawn in Gold Country into a carnival overnight? The annual Mini Mania Open House and Lawn Party of course! Those who were there got to see first hand all the eye candy, but for those who were not, the Mini's ranged from an electric Moke to a VTEC powered Classic, to Randy Steven's tricked out CVT to Robert Holt’s Purple Haze convertible to three full on Mini race cars: my sprint car, Jacques Andres' enduro car and Eric and Colin Herricks's rally car, and many in between.
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Race Report -USTCC

Infineon Raceway, April 11, 2008.
by Jerry (Siddhartha) Bradbury
My Mini has a new setup for this race. Speed parts from my sponsor Mini Mania have been added by my sponsor Bay Bridge Motors and USTCC sponsor Nitto has provided four brand new NT 01 tires. This will be my first official race with the US Touring Car Championship and I look forward to hitting the grid with more horsepower and quicker lap times.
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MINI Clubman Review

Published: 21st April 2008
The new MINI was launched in 2001, to much acclaim. Although bigger than the original Mini, what it lacked in rear legroom, it made up for in unusual styling and a vast array of personalisation elements, much loved by a local estate agent.

The MINI Clubman has the same raft of options but its main benefit is the extra length, which should make rear passengers happier.
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looking for information on rear coilovers.
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looking for information on rear coilovers.

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May-07-2008 03:36PM declanm   838708
May-07-2008 03:35PM declanm   838707
May-07-2008 03:24PM donsobering   838705
May-07-2008 03:06PM n3mesis   838703
May-07-2008 02:51PM yan6   838699
May-07-2008 02:16PM donsobering   838693
May-07-2008 02:03PM WeirdEh   838689

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Posted: May-07-2008 03:36PM Reply

Don, have you used or do you plan to use progressive springs on the rear?

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Posted: May-07-2008 03:35PM Reply

Rear coilovers can be made to work pretty well if done right.  Quality springs should need no settling and will remain consistent for much longer(forever) than cones.  As Don mentioned, you can easily raise or lower the coil spring seats to adjust ride height. Just make sure you choose units that accommodate commonly available spring inner diameters.  Good springs aren't free, so check with someone, like Don, about a good starting spring rate and spring length.  You really should have a very good idea what ride height(and thereby resting spring length) you plan to run.  Make sure to check for coil bind before full bump and make sure that the springs do not come completely free of their seats when the wheel is at full droop(rebound).  Depending upon your car's weight and the weight of any passengers or cargo you carry, you may have to select your spring rates based upon your own requirements rather than what would normally be "the way to go".  Better to be a little too soft than a little too stiff because you can stiffen the shocks to help slightly soft springs, but you can't compensate for shocks that are too stiff.  So, you have a bit of homework that must be completed before you order springs.  In case it isn't already understood, cutting the ends off of springs is really not a satisfactory method of getting the spring lengths or rates "just right".  Springs that don't seat squarely can cause you problems you'll hate.

I'm not trying to make this any more complicated than necessary, but you may be forced to choose between linear or progressive springs if both are available.  Ask Don.  I'm not sure just how useful progressive springs are on a Mini's rear, but at least consider using progressive rates.  Progressive springs are one way to run relatively soft spring rates under normal circumstances, but still resist bottoming out under unnatural times(curb bouncing, potholes) This naturally adds at least another step to the process of assessing a spring's fitness for the intended purpose. 

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Posted: May-07-2008 03:24PM Reply

My new dampers are made by Quantum in the UK. I'm using hypercoil springs. The rear uses the stock upper location and the front has a custom made mount that picks up on the original 4 bolts plus two more. All use 5/16" bolts

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Posted: May-07-2008 03:06PM Reply

Side note on rear coilovers: from Huddersfield Spares you can get a couple different brands of rear coilovers which have offset perches so you don't have to mess with the mount locations:

I haven't driven on them yet though so I can't give you any helpful feedback!


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Posted: May-07-2008 02:51PM Reply

Don, out of curiosity what brand are your new units & have you retained the original mount locations?

Cheers

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Posted: May-07-2008 02:16PM Reply

Adam I have had coilovers,front and rear on my mini for a long time. I love the fact that you can adjust ride height and bump and rebound as well as change the spring rates easily. Something that is a bit difficult to do with rubber cones. I have just changed to a super light weight coilover and I have the originals for sale. Carrera coil overs with springs (175lbr and 300lbf ) and the front upper shock mounts. $400 for every thing if you are interested. Don

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Posted: May-07-2008 02:03PM Reply

Has anyone ever used coilover shocks instead of the rubber cone? if so how did  it feel? and if you hated it want to sell the shocks?


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