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Wanted: Replacement Speedo

    Created by: dinomight
Orig. Posting Date User Name Edit Date Msg No.
Jul-28-2008 12:47PM pocampousa   854415
Jul-25-2008 10:42AM Cup Cake   853923
Jul-25-2008 04:28AM dklawson   853816
Jul-24-2008 09:35PM dinomight   853779
Jul-24-2008 02:38PM partsguy1   853716
Jul-24-2008 02:12PM rotbox   853705
Jul-24-2008 01:13PM Cup Cake   853696
Jul-24-2008 11:10AM pocampousa   853662
Jul-24-2008 08:15AM mascherk   853626
Jul-24-2008 07:25AM MacDhaibhidh   853612
Jul-24-2008 06:59AM dinomight   853603
Jul-24-2008 06:57AM dinomight Edited: Jul-24-2008 07:03AM   853602
Jul-24-2008 05:19AM dklawson   853584
Jul-23-2008 08:54PM MacDhaibhidh   853552
Jul-23-2008 08:49PM pmustang   853550
Jul-23-2008 08:16PM dr. jinG   853545
Jul-23-2008 07:05PM mascherk   853526
Jul-23-2008 06:37PM partsguy1   853519
Jul-23-2008 06:32PM dinomight   853517
Jul-23-2008 06:27PM mascherk   853516

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 Posted: Jul-28-2008 12:47PM
pocampousa
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Dinomight,

I fixed my odometer, it was not hard, make sure to work on a clean area. and have something to blow and clean the glass and other parts. It took me about 2 hours and a half to fix it.

Take some photos they are really helpful. Good luck and thank you everybody for your help and knowlage

 

 

 Posted: Jul-25-2008 10:42AM
Cup Cake
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I had one where the action of the pawl arm and the toothed gear where out of phase so that the arm basically overshot the tooth. Just had to turn the gear wheel a bit to get the arm to engage.

 Posted: Jul-25-2008 04:28AM
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I'm not a speedometer repair person by trade, but like Terry, I've worked on quite a few speedometers from Triumphs, MGs, Minis... and even one from a Hillman.  The pawl arm and the ratchet wheel can both wear as Rotbox said.  However, you won't know until you get in there and look.  Like anything else on a car, with proper documentation and by taking notes and pictures as you go, the maintenance and repair tasks don't have to be daunting... even for a speedometer.

Doug L.

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 09:35PM
dinomight
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Hey guys,

 Thanks so much for all of your advice. I will try taking it apart this weekend and i'll let you know how it goes.

-D

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 02:38PM
partsguy1
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Although I would never profess to be an expert on the inner workings of a Smiths Speedo Head, I have taken a fair number of them apart........... and they even worked again after reassembly. At the risk of sounding repetitive (see the other thread on Speedo issues) I have found that the Pull Pawl Arm is the usual failed component, when trying to diagnose the stuckedness of an Odometer.

That would be the white arm thingie in the pic. But hey, I'm no expert.

Terry  

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 Posted: Jul-24-2008 02:12PM
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It is apparent that you "experts" have never had a Brit speedo apart.  There is a fiber gear that turns the odo. that likely has broken a tooth.  These are easily replaced.  The gear is the same for all of them I think.  Get your nerve up and take the back off and take a look inside and see what you find, it's not scary in there, I promise.  Often times you can find an old speedo you can remove one from.  I may even have one.

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 01:13PM
Cup Cake
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The number is turns/mile for a particular FD. I found out recently that there are 3 or 4 different ratios for the drive gears on the transmision as well, something I didn't know.

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 11:10AM
pocampousa
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Let me knwo how hard is to do it, I need t do it too

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 08:15AM
mascherk
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dr. jinG, It's not my speedometer. (read as Inspector Clouseau)

Cheers,

Kelley

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 Posted: Jul-24-2008 07:25AM
MacDhaibhidh
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Originally Posted by pmustang
Remember that you have to get the same coded speedo as the one you remove. I.E. there is a small set of numbers at the base of the face, these must match the one you have for correct calibration. cheers. peter

What exactly do the numbers meen? From the looks of it mine has the numbers SN4421/115S and 1408(both located around the gauge's center, so i'm guessing i have to get this one: http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/ADU2341/AddedFrom/CatBrowse-%20GAUGES/InvDetail.cfm, but if at all possible i'd much rather get this one:http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/13H4444MG/AddedFrom/CatBrowse-%20GAUGES/InvDetail.cfm.(i like the fact that it is in KM/h and i like the white face), so did i find the right numbers or am i looking in the wrong place? Oh and one more thing. I clocked my speed using a handheld gps and when my speedo said i was going 50mph my gps said i was going 55mph, does this indicate that the speedo i currently have might be the wrong one, or is there something that can be done to fix the speedo to show proper speeds?

-D

1408 is for 3.76 final drive ratio, says 90 but goes to 95mph

Thank You in advance!

Stieve

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 Posted: Jul-24-2008 06:59AM
dinomight
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Originally Posted by dklawson

Google for the 27 page PDF by Anthony Rhodes entitled "Repairing Jaeger and Smiths Speedometers".  Your odometer isn't broken, it's just tired.  It could benefit from a cleaning and a tiny bit of lubrication on the odo and trip wheels.

Working in a clean well lit place, armed with a digital camera, a note pad, and the PDF... you can clean the gauge yourself and have it working properly again.  However, if you're not comfortable with this, there are places like Palo Alto Speedometer, Nisonger, and APT (www.gaugeguys.com) who will clean and calibrate the gauge for you.

I think i might just try repairing it myself, Thanks for the tip on the pdf.

-D

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 06:57AM
 Edited:  Jul-24-2008 07:03AM
dinomight
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Originally Posted by pmustang
Remember that you have to get the same coded speedo as the one you remove. I.E. there is a small set of numbers at the base of the face, these must match the one you have for correct calibration. cheers. peter

What exactly do the numbers meen? From the looks of it mine has the numbers SN4421/115S and 1408(both located around the gauge's center, so i'm guessing i have to get this one: http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/ADU2341/AddedFrom/CatBrowse-%20GAUGES/InvDetail.cfm, but if at all possible i'd much rather get this one:http://www.minimania.com/web/Item/13H4444MG/AddedFrom/CatBrowse-%20GAUGES/InvDetail.cfm.(i like the fact that it is in KM/h and i like the white face), so did i find the right numbers or am i looking in the wrong place? Oh and one more thing. I clocked my speed using a handheld gps and when my speedo said i was going 50mph my gps said i was going 55mph, does this indicate that the speedo i currently have might be the wrong one, or is there something that can be done to fix the speedo to show proper speeds?

-D

 Posted: Jul-24-2008 05:19AM
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Google for the 27 page PDF by Anthony Rhodes entitled "Repairing Jaeger and Smiths Speedometers".  Your odometer isn't broken, it's just tired.  It could benefit from a cleaning and a tiny bit of lubrication on the odo and trip wheels.

Working in a clean well lit place, armed with a digital camera, a note pad, and the PDF... you can clean the gauge yourself and have it working properly again.  However, if you're not comfortable with this, there are places like Palo Alto Speedometer, Nisonger, and APT (www.gaugeguys.com) who will clean and calibrate the gauge for you.

Doug L.

 Posted: Jul-23-2008 08:54PM
MacDhaibhidh
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Email me, I may be able to fix them

Thank You in advance!

Stieve

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 Posted: Jul-23-2008 08:49PM
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Remember that you have to get the same coded speedo as the one you remove. I.E. there is a small set of numbers at the base of the face, these must match the one you have for correct calibration.

cheers. peter

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 Posted: Jul-23-2008 08:16PM
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Kelley, look up Nisonger on the web.  I think they are in NY.  They rebuilt my 120+ speedo, and made it look like new.  The clean, lube, calibrate, etc.  Cost $110, a couple of years ago.

**Dr. jinG**

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 Posted: Jul-23-2008 07:05PM
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Yeah, I guess that falls into the catagory of maintenance, like changing the oil. ;^)

Cheers,

Kelley

"If you can afford the car, you can afford the manual..."

 Posted: Jul-23-2008 06:37PM
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Hey Kelley, If she is so good at fixing things, how come she has pull it out every 10000 miles and fix it again?

If you're not on the edge............ you're taking up to much space.

 Posted: Jul-23-2008 06:32PM
dinomight
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If i buy a new speedo (for 300$) are they fabricated better? In other words do they have the same problem (will i be buying a new one every so often). Or are they just as bad as the one i have now.

-D

 Posted: Jul-23-2008 06:27PM
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My girlfriend has to remove her speedometer and give the odometer a push every 10000 miles. After that it's fine until it hits 9999. Of course, she drives her car more than most of you guys and she knows how to fix things.

Cheers,

Kelley

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